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Thursday, February 25, 2010

A meltdown of Chernobyl proportions (update)

As you probably know the Russian President has cancelled his visit to Vancouver for closing ceremony. And you guess it right, it's related to a hockey meltdown of team Russia vs. Canada.

Yes, it goes back to 1972 and it's all about the national pride and the way how Canadians humiliated the Russians, beat them up and broke Kharlamov's ankle. This would be remembered a thousand years from now. It's not that the Russians didn't deliver the same blows to Canadians, in 1981 Canada Cup they won 8:1 with Canada having such stars as Gretzky, Lafleur, Bossy, Perreault, Ray Bourque and Robinson. For Russians the game that will be remembered the most will be the win over Canada. You can lose to Finns, Swedes, Americans, Czechs, but the one that will hurt for a long time will be the loss to Canada.

Now you can understand the emotions after the tough loss and Ovi's reaction to this person who was filming him. It's still no excuse to Ovi, and it's the first time I see him being so mad. We will never know what provoked him, would be nice to see how that person looked or was holding. Ovi is walking and talking on the phone when he sees her filming him. He tries to avoid her going to the right, but she follows him. This is where Ovi puts his hand over the camera. I can tell you one thing, she has a strange Russian accent, maybe she was Czech? Ukranian? or Russian Jagr fan from whoever he plays for out there? Was she trying to put her camera right in his face or was it something else that provoked Ovi's reaction?



The guy who posted it wrote that the person who was filming "escaped with contusions and bruises." Don't believe it, Ovi just put his hand over the camera and that was all. She was still filming Ovi and his friends after they passed. She said "don't break," and then "don't break open", a slight difference between the first and the second, as if she was not a native
Russian speaker.

eurosport.ru:Several national team players, including Alexander Ovechkin as well as the head coach Vyacheslav Bykov and the Russian Hockey Federation president Vladislav Tretiak visited the Russia house in Vancouver two hours after the crushing defeat from Maple Leafs with a score of 3:7.

Ovechkin exchanged a few words with his friends answering to their questions in English, "Yes, we lost." At the request of the journalists to say a few words after the game he was replying, "I was asking you not to shoot," and was trying to cover the cameras with his hand to prevent paparazzi's making pictures of him.

See, it started with paparazzis getting under Ovi's skin. If I would be him, I would start punching to the left and to the right. :-)

By Sean Leahy, Yahoo! Sports:
That's definitely not the normal, fun-loving, toothless-smiling Ovechkin we're used to seeing. While it's not appropriate behavior for an NHL captain and one of the globe's best players to be caught on video doing, it just shows how hard he took the loss and how much of a disappointment it is for Russia to be going home without a medal.

Again, no excuse for Ovi.


NY Magazine, Feb. 25, 2010:The game between Canada and Russia was supposed to be the best of this men's hockey tournament, and maybe even the premier event of the whole Winter Games. And it totally was, provided you're not a fan of things like "defense," "goal-tending," and "rational coaching decisions." Russia displayed none of these last night in an embarrassing 7–3 loss, and by the end of the night, the only ones more disappointed than the Russian players were the hockey fans who were expecting an instant classic.

Ovechkin — the centerpiece of the potent Russian offensive attack — was completely invisible. (The sub-matchup of Ovechkin versus Sidney Crosby didn't live up to expectations, either; Crosby was held without a point himself.) And why Russian coach Vyacheslav Bykov didn't pull an ineffective Evgeni Nabokov after Brenden Morrow scored Canada's fourth goal of the first period — or after that period ended, or after Corey Perry scored to make it 5–1 early in the second — is anybody's guess. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered, but the Russians will have until Sochi to wonder if it would have.



Meanwhile Bykov, who was interviewed by Russian Press, still believes that he made the right decision keeping Nabokov in the game after the first period. Putting Nabokov instead of Bryzgalov was the bad decision in the first place. Was there something else we don't know?


Pierre LeBrun, ESPN.com:
There was, as rumor would have it, tremendous pressure on coach Vyacheslav Bykov to include as many KHL players as possible. There were powerful people behind the scenes who wanted to make this a political statement, too.

One Russian player, who shall remain anonymous because he wanted it that way, told ESPN.com after the Slovakia loss that his great fear was the KHL and NHL players were not on the same page and he hoped the team would come together before it was too late. Talk about prophetic.

"You know, I can't answer, I can't answer for this question," Bryzgalov said Wednesday night when ESPN.com asked him about the potential KHL-NHL chemistry issues.

But let the record show, in the biggest game of his sparkling career, Ovechkin delivered a major dud. He was a total nonfactor.

Shocking? You bet. And it'll take four years to heal these wounds.



By Mike Zeisberger, Toronto Sun, Feb. 25, 2010:If there was a darker day in Russian hockey, Maple Leafs forward Nikolai Kulemin can’t remember one.

“That was the worst game in Russian history,” Kulemin said Thursday, referring to Canada’s 7-3 quarter-final victory over Team Ovechkin at the Vancouver Olympics Wednesday night.

“Nobody played the way we are capable of.”


And regarding to some comments somebody left on this blog about Ovechkin being overrated(?): in the 2006 Games in Turin, Italy, Ovechkin scored the winning goal that eliminated Canada in the quarter-finals.

Without Canada the world wouldn't have the game of hockey, without Russia the world would never reach the awesomeness and excitement this game has now. It goes back and forth, it's now Canada's turn. The pendulum has swing, beware of Ovechkin Canada.


The horror of paparazzi's:




From Gazeta.ru:Alexander Ovechkin, after losing the Canadians, broke the reporter's camera who had asked him to record the interview.

The incident occurred a day after the defeat of the team at the Olympics in Vancouver, where the Russians were defeated by the Canadians in the quarterfinals with a score of 3:7. The Russian fans called the defeat the loss of the entire Russian team at Vancouver Olympics. Ovechkin was in a bar in downtown Vancouver on Thursday night local time, when he noticed the RIA Novosti journalist shooting him with camcoder and approached him, the agency said. The journalist asked him for an interview with him on which Ovechkin said, "Do you want me to break your camera?".

After that the hockey player broke out the camcoder's LCD display. "I was holding the camera in my right hand, when Ovechkin approached me. I dropped it, and he with his right hand broke out LCD display. He didn't snatch the camcorder and it all happened in seconds. After that, he (Ovechkin), smiled, and silently walked out into the street and drove away. People around didn't even notice, there was no reaction," said the correspondent of RIA News Eugene Fatkin.


Both RIA News and the woman can file a suit against Ovechkin. Ovi, come back home to DC, enough of Vancouver, stay away from trouble.


Here's the video evidence (thanks to one of our readers in the comments section):


en.rian.ru/video/


It starts with Ovechkin looking directly at the camera of RIA Novosti Eugene Fatkin, shaking his head from side to side and saying "Don't shoot" ("Не снимай"). The guy ignores him and continues to shoot. Ovi comes to him and says "Why are you shooting [I asked you not to]" ("Ты че снимаешь?") and Fatkin asks him to record the interview.

I think Fatkin deserved it. No respect for privacy. He was asked not to shoot. If someone would do it to you, and you don't want to be filmed, what would you do? Personally I would punch that guy in the face and break his camera, would you?

I also agree with the reader who left the link to the video:
It is very clear Ovi doesn't want to be filmed. If this guy wanted an interview then why is he being a total creep stalker about it???? He is just lurking and stalking Ovi.

I think Ovi should sue RIA Novosti, not them suing him. That's not the way how major Russian News agency should conduct the interviews.



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29 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't think Ovie's encounter with the camera person is as bad as everyone is making it out to. The fact that it made it on the internet makes me question whether it was a fan or another paparazzo.

It's probably one of, if not THE, most difficult time of his professional life after the horrid loss to Canada and people will want to pile on him and tear him down more. This just gives the haters more fodder.

I would like to point out that I think Ovie has shown more maturity in this loss than other losses he's had playing for Russia. He is much more restrained, none of the uncontrolled crying on the ice that we saw from him a few years ago. Of course, that could be part of the problem since he is by nature an emotional person. He hasn't found the balance yet. It has put him in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

beergirl said...

Someone said that she yelled "Ovechkin you suck" after this happened. If that's true, she's lucky. If that were me I would have went back and broke her camera and her nose.

tj said...

I think you refer to his picture with Malkin in juniors where he was crying. That was because some Canadian player injured him and he couldn't continue to play. He was out for a half a year, I believe. It's in one of the interviews he gave to Sport-Express on this blog.

Martha said...

Every one wants a piece of him his "friends", family, fans....People forget he's 24 years old and that half (or more) his life has been dedicated to hockey. He never really had a chance be be a normal teenager and got thrown into adult hood, so he is somewhere in the middle. The press was just relentless with him, I knew something like this would happen after watching that video of him inside the store in Vancouver. Imagine being asked the same questions over and over again? Then not meeting all the expectations and having a camera in your face to ask you about? Yeah!

I dont agree with his reactions, but paparrazi/reporters/fans lack boundries with their cameras. They just dont know when to back off and provoke people. He did something similar here in L.A. at Staples Center when some fan shoved a camera in his face after he lost the Kings. I believe he just covered the camera with his hand and told them to stop.

I hope he gets much need rest in DC in the privacy of his home!!!! He will have my support! But I hope there are no more incidents like this!

Darla said...

The truly sad part is that too many people know where he lives in the DC area and won't--don't--respect his privacy.

Martha said...

Oh yeah, I read that people show up to his house and ask for his autograph! That is just freakin' scarey, no boundaries! Well, I hope he finds a good hiding place these next couple of day, he needs to lay low.

Anonymous said...

People will accuse us of being Ovechkin apologists, but a lot of Caps fans see him in more situations and read and watch more of his interviews. I think that gives us more of an informed opinion as to the real Ovechkin.

I don't think his handling of the person with the camera was bad, but it wasn't the best response. I think he should have ignored the person.

Yes, he loves the limelight, but he also has been trying to carve out more privacy for himself, his family, and his friends. I think that is a sign a growing up and it should be respected, but as others have posted here, people have lost a sense of boundaries and that is magnified when it comes to their treatment of celebrities. I hate how everything instantly ends up on the internet making nothing into something.

Yes, Ovechkin can be loud, brash, fun-loving, teasing, irritable, and more. But when I have seen him wandering around Kettler after practice I am always struck by how quite, soft-spoken, and polite he is. Unfortunately, that side of him doesn't get broadcast nationally. Today's media isn't known for neutrality or even-handedness.

Ovechkin's Olympic experience has been a disaster from a PR perspective, part of that is on him, but the Russian team's media decisions also share the blame.

tj said...

Read this: "This added to the tension between teammates as Mancuso already accused Vonn of taking up all of the team's attention."

Don't you think KHL players were a bit jealous that Ovehkin was giving 1.5 h interview in the mixed zone? I do believe this is exactly what happened. That's why he went 180 degrees and stopped talking to media.

tj said...

That hour and a half interview was on the first day. This is when Koshechkin, a reserve from KHL said jealously, "everybody's [media] waiting for one guy"

Donald said...

Yeah.

Ovechkin is a great hockey player. So this comment is regards to the game, not the guy.

Nobody that knows hockey actually expected Russia to win right?

Because I didn't.

They had tons of offensive talent obviously, but let's face it they were highly suspect on defence. I honestly can't think of one guy that Russia had that would be a top 6 defenceman. Goaltending, also weak. Russia has quite a bit of offence, but Canada has Doughty, Weber, Pronger, Keith, Boyle...c'mon.

It wasn't the coach's fault, or some political nonsense. Russia doesn't have the horses to win that race. And any notion that best of 7 would have proven Russian dominance is crazy. I truly believe that there is not a team in this tournament that could beat this team Canada 4 times out of 7!

They might not win the gold, although I predict they will, but anything can happen in a one off, single elimination. But 4 out of 7??!!

No way.

mkat83 said...

TJ, I think you're probably exactly right. I had been thinking the same thing... how would it make the rest of the team feel when the media only cared about one member of the team.

I also agree, I don't think the camera thing was so bad. I read a post-game interview with AO on the Japers Rink site, and I thought AO was pretty well composed considering what had just happened. I hope he gets the privacy he needs and deserves, and that his friends are there to support him when needed. I am sure the Caps fans will help when he's back on the ice.

tj said...

If Russian could have a good Coach, they could beat Canada. But for the most part I agree, Canada can assemble 3 national teams as good as this one.

A long time ago there was the Challenge Cup, that Canadian team was unbelievable, much much better than this one. Gretzky, Lemieux played for that team among others. And they lost to Russians 1:2 in 3 games. Tikhonov was the head coach back then.

Anonymous said...

tj
Не согласна с тобой, что девушка с камерой говорит с акцентом. Я его не слышу.
По самой ситуации хочу сказать, что это стиль работы life.ru, везде и всюду лезть с камерами. Причем "корреспонденты" у них чаще всего как раз девушки. Если я не ошибаюсь, то именно lifenews сообщили о смерти деда Овечкина, когда тот еще был жив.

Donald said...

Sorry I don't read Russian...

That's what I mean though. The coach wasn't going to make a difference in this one.

Team Russia didn't have the players. If this is the BEST 20 hockey players Russia could muster up, they were never going to get it done.

I guess easy to say now that Canada won. But for what it's worth I said it before the game that Canada would roll over them.

tj said...

No, Donald, it could be opposite. If they'd play tomorrow with Bryzgalov, they could roll over Canada. Look at USA, they creamed Canada and they don't have big stars like Ovechkin. Kane is great, but not that great.

Donald said...

I disagree.

First off, U.S.A. did not "cream" Canada. It was a game that the U.S. was outshot 45-23. They were out hustled and Canada won every battle on the boards.

The score was 4-3 U.S. with Canada giving pressure when the U.S. got an empty net goal.

Also, they had terrible goal tending that night from Brodeur. I could make your same argument that if Luongo had started instead of Brodeur, Canada would have won.

Russia lost because the Canadian forwards did their job, they pressured a weak defensive core until they turned over the puck. Neither of the Russian goalies are what I would consider "elite" and would have had to have the game of their life to have won that game. Like Ryan Miller did against Canada.

I'll come back and take all the criticism if Canada doesn't win Gold on Sunday. However, when they roll over Team U.S.A. in the final, I'll expect my props...LOL.

Did you even watch the U.S.A v. Canada game?

tj said...

Yeah, there was one game Caps vs Flyers when Caps outshoot Flyers like 100 to 20 and lost like 3:7.

I am telling you, this Canadian team is not unbeatable, another day, another chance and a hot goalie, that's all you need to beat anybody.

And unlike the Russians USA will be well prepared, they have a great goalie, great young players and Ron Wilson who totally dominated Canada before.

Anonymous said...

Wait are they actually going to suspend Ovechkin?

Anonymous said...

Ok so... I've been an OVI fan since the world juniors in 2005. That's where I first saw him play. I've been wanting to meet him forever.

I just wanna comment on how disappointed I am in him.

At the beginning of the month of Feb he was at a bar in Ottawa after his game and I just happened to be at the same one as him.

I asked him atleast 4 times for a photo and he rudely refused. About few mins later a few slutty girls came along and he gladly took photos with them. I also asked him for his autograph and he literally scribbled two circles. I was very polite in the way I asked him. I've been a fan for so long all I wanted was one picture or autograph.

I was and still am heartbroken of his behavior and the more I hear about him in the media lately and now this I just don't know how much respect I have for him anymore.

I wish I never got to meet him as for me it ruined the nice soft spoken friendly image of Ovi that everyone has.

I know that everyone has their good and bad days but i'm starting to think he's not as humble as they say.

- copi

tj said...

Copi,

I am very sorry to hear about that. I know it's gonna hurt 10 years from now. If I could apologize for Ovi, but I am not him.

The guy that I love and follow and blog about is not the guy you've met at the Ottawa bar. Sorry about that, everybody has their bad moments.

I was once filmed by a guy without seeing it. All of a sudden I hear "hey, dude, say something to my birthday party" and didn't like it at all, I don't know why, I instantly felt like he was not friendly and I felt like breaking his camera and punching him right in the face.

Nothing else to say, you have to judge Ovi on your own, but again, sorry about that.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry for your experience in Ottawa, but Ovie does have the right to refuse interviews, can give autographs when he wants, and can decide to take photos with whom he wants when he is on his own time. It sucks when you are the rejected one, but you shouldn't take it personally.

As for the latest camera kerfuffle, it has more details but must not have been much of an altercation if no one else in the bar noticed. Again, a "journalist" runs off and makes it into a bigger story without corroboration or seeing if there is another side to the story. And what can the NHL or the Capitals organization say on the matter? They weren't there and probably haven't had time to talk to Ovechkin.

This isn't as serious as Kane's taxi driver case over the summer and his more recent limo problems, and it certainly isn't in the league of Khabibulin's DUI.

Денис said...

Саша, ребята держитесь! Много грязи пойдет от СМИ, для которых это работа, и от болельщиков которые узнали о хоккее за последние два года. Это не отображает истинного отношения настоящих хоккейных болельщиков, проиграна битва но не проиграно сражение. Чем больнее нас бьют, тем сильнее мы становимся, удачи и побед!!! с уважением, Денис

this space for rent said...

I find it really sad that there are so many people who have absolutely no respect or consideration for a man's privacy or feelings and think this is okay because he's a public figure. How would you like it if that was done to you? Did you ever stop to think about it before you started shoving a camera at him?

If you can't cut the guy a break in his off-time, you get what is coming to you and I have no sympathy for you. He's got that right and if he doesn't exercise it, he'll never get away from the madness and he'll eventually be driven insane himself. Everybody's got to get away, so maybe those who are bent out of shape by this need to step back and think before behaving in this obnoxious and boorish manner next time.

Anonymous said...

I see that the incident was mentioned where he broke the paparazzi guys camera but I didn't see the video of it posted here. Well here it is http://en.rian.ru/video/20100227/158028134.html

It is very clear Ovi doesn't want to be filmed. If this guy wanted an interview then why is he being a total creep stalker about it???? He is just lurking and stalking Ovi. Looks to me like this was the same day/night as the female "fan" video happened. I don't think it is that far fetched for Ovi to think or maybe even have know (we never saw her) she was with said guy who got his camera broken. Which you don't even see Ovi break it...you don't even see his hand reach out for it like you do in the females video.

Not to excuse Ovi but he did try to avoid the female and she turned to film him more. Most people would put there hand up and might move the camera like he did. It's not like he punched her or anything. But the way people are talking you would think he did.

Could Ovechkin have handled this better sure. But really I can't blame him...all these people in his face during his private time. There is a time to film him and take pictures of him and a time to leave him alone. When you see him getting annoyed leave him alone.

I just think this whole thing as been blown way out of proportion and I think many would react the same way Ovi did. How would most of us feel seeing a creep filming us. You try to avoid them the follow you and or zoom in on you and hope you won't notice.

I personally don't think badly of Ovechkin because of this. Also as for the crying going on he didn't speak much to the media or at all to the English speaking media how does anyone know what he was told by the Russian coaches after comments being made during their training camp by teammates he could have been told not to talk to the media. Who knows? Give the guy a break everything Ovechkin does so many people think the worst of him and can't wait to take him down.

Anonymous said...

Hi Everyone

Thanks for your kind comments. Also TJ I love your blog. You do a great job!

I hope I get another chance to meet Ovi sometime to remove my unfortunate experience I had with him.

-Copi

Martha said...

To the Ottawa poster, I am sorry that Ovie treated you poorly, but I would've just left him alone after the 1st try. Maybe you will have better luck if you go to something more controlled like an instore? That is if you still want to meet him.

People need to realize that athletes and celebs are NOT obligated to pose for pics or sign autographs, they are entitled to a night out just like you an I. As I have said before, yes people like Ovie should expect to lose some privacy, but should not be hounded either.

I think he has had enough and it's best if people just leave him alone for a minute!

Anonymous said...

After seeing this latest video I have no respect for the cameraman. He is following Ovie throughout the bar. Everyone Ovie is with looks uncomfortable and hunted. That is the behavior of a stalker. Nor is there evidence that Ovie touches the camera.

Katya said...

I want to APOLOGISE for those Russian idiots, the so-called "fans" who add to our hockey players' frustration by pouring tons of dirt on them. It's a bad Russian tradition to praise winners to the skies and attack losers to death. A burden of responsibility is tenfold harder than any other sportsmen in any other country could imagine.No wonder Sasha Ovechkin is angry. Dear Sasha! Dear Ilya Bryzgalov and Zhenya Nabokov!Dear Russian players(I can address them all by names, of course but it would be too long comment...it already is :) I can assure you there are millions of people in Russia who still love you, believe in you and pray for you...as for those who said bitter words about you..please forgive them! It's just shock that made them mad. You are our heroes and great hope in Sochi! )))

melissa said...

All this is just being blown out of proportion by the media, and also people who've been waiting for chances like this to ruin his image.

It's still no excuse to break people's cameras and camcorders, but sometimes people only learn things the hard way, like getting their cameras broken...